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	<description>bibliophilia and its discontents</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Brief History of the Dead, by Kevin Brockmeier by John</title>
		<link>http://johnmiedema.ca/2010/03/05/the-brief-history-of-the-dead-by-kevin-brockmeier/comment-page-1/#comment-5142</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My book, Slow Reading, is slim. I took pride in its succinctness. Some readers appreciated this. Others seemed to feel short-changed. Oh well.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Brief History of the Dead, by Kevin Brockmeier by Peter</title>
		<link>http://johnmiedema.ca/2010/03/05/the-brief-history-of-the-dead-by-kevin-brockmeier/comment-page-1/#comment-5139</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a new, late-in-life interest in Orthodox Church cosmology, including the role of the dead in our lives.  I keep running across books with imaginative ties between the dead and the living.  I think it happens because of my interest, though I wonder if it says something about what interests the general Western book-reading culture.

A very nice review.  I&#039;d like to learn how to get a book down to such a pith and still make the report interesting, as you do here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a new, late-in-life interest in Orthodox Church cosmology, including the role of the dead in our lives.  I keep running across books with imaginative ties between the dead and the living.  I think it happens because of my interest, though I wonder if it says something about what interests the general Western book-reading culture.</p>
<p>A very nice review.  I&#8217;d like to learn how to get a book down to such a pith and still make the report interesting, as you do here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Case for Books by Robert Darnton &#8211; The Interplay of Private and Public Interests in Libraries by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark, 

I said, “The public library first emerged as a response to the exclusive access of royals to library collections.” I had another look at Battles&#039; Unquiet History. Here are two items that contribute to the interpretation of that statement.

Battles notes that the title of the first modern &quot;public&quot; library is often given to the library of San Marco in 1444. &quot;The word &#039;public&#039; refers not to the masses but to the the stage upon which the church, the nobility, and powerful mercantile families performed their roles and wielded their authority&quot; (68). The meaning of the term public had more to do with publicity (although it also served to transmit the benefits of scholars to society).

In Chapter 4, &quot;The Battle of the Books&quot;, Battles observes that &quot;at the end of the 17th century, the Royal Library was a mishmash of classical works acquired for the edification of monarchs, church literature, and politico-theological tracts&quot; (93). This coincided with a growing abundance of books. When Bentley took charge of the Royal Library, he envisioned a research library for scholarly usage, consistent with the ideal of a universal library, a recurring concept in Battles book. 

My original statement may have implied that the public insisted on access. Not really. Based on the above, the transition from royals to the public was about transmission of power, and a response to the growing availability of books and the need to manage it. It might be argued that some librarians &#039;slipped in&#039; the ideal of a public/universal library. More likely, the abundance of books made public usage not only affordable, but almost necessary as way to justify continued building of collections, and funding them too.

I had read Battles&#039; book just before Darnton&#039;s, so it was still echoing in my head, but I think it is consistent with Darnton&#039;s discussion of the spirit of the enlightenment in libraries, mentioned in a previous comment.

Hope that clarifies the statement. I enjoyed reviewing these passages!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark, </p>
<p>I said, “The public library first emerged as a response to the exclusive access of royals to library collections.” I had another look at Battles&#8217; Unquiet History. Here are two items that contribute to the interpretation of that statement.</p>
<p>Battles notes that the title of the first modern &#8220;public&#8221; library is often given to the library of San Marco in 1444. &#8220;The word &#8216;public&#8217; refers not to the masses but to the the stage upon which the church, the nobility, and powerful mercantile families performed their roles and wielded their authority&#8221; (68). The meaning of the term public had more to do with publicity (although it also served to transmit the benefits of scholars to society).</p>
<p>In Chapter 4, &#8220;The Battle of the Books&#8221;, Battles observes that &#8220;at the end of the 17th century, the Royal Library was a mishmash of classical works acquired for the edification of monarchs, church literature, and politico-theological tracts&#8221; (93). This coincided with a growing abundance of books. When Bentley took charge of the Royal Library, he envisioned a research library for scholarly usage, consistent with the ideal of a universal library, a recurring concept in Battles book. </p>
<p>My original statement may have implied that the public insisted on access. Not really. Based on the above, the transition from royals to the public was about transmission of power, and a response to the growing availability of books and the need to manage it. It might be argued that some librarians &#8217;slipped in&#8217; the ideal of a public/universal library. More likely, the abundance of books made public usage not only affordable, but almost necessary as way to justify continued building of collections, and funding them too.</p>
<p>I had read Battles&#8217; book just before Darnton&#8217;s, so it was still echoing in my head, but I think it is consistent with Darnton&#8217;s discussion of the spirit of the enlightenment in libraries, mentioned in a previous comment.</p>
<p>Hope that clarifies the statement. I enjoyed reviewing these passages!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yellowknife by Steve Zipp by John Miedema &#187; Canada Also Reads 2010: Cast Your Vote</title>
		<link>http://johnmiedema.ca/2009/04/15/yellowknife-by-steve-zipp-book-review/comment-page-1/#comment-5124</link>
		<dc:creator>John Miedema &#187; Canada Also Reads 2010: Cast Your Vote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Small Press Month last year I read and reviewed Steve Zipp&#8217;s Yellowknife. The book has been shortlisted for the Canada Also Reads 2010 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Small Press Month last year I read and reviewed Steve Zipp&#8217;s Yellowknife. The book has been shortlisted for the Canada Also Reads 2010 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Case for Books by Robert Darnton &#8211; The Interplay of Private and Public Interests in Libraries by Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, John, that makes sense.  I was wondering if that was more the sense of royals that he meant; a more plebeian sense if you will.

And I did see your review, just as I&#039;ve heard many people mention it over the past several years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, John, that makes sense.  I was wondering if that was more the sense of royals that he meant; a more plebeian sense if you will.</p>
<p>And I did see your review, just as I&#8217;ve heard many people mention it over the past several years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My New Gary Fisher &#8220;Gritty&#8221; Fixed Gear: Gimme Some Street Cred by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim. I&#039;m sure we can arrange that.</description>
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		<title>Comment on My New Gary Fisher &#8220;Gritty&#8221; Fixed Gear: Gimme Some Street Cred by Tim Miedema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Miedema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice bike! I want to take it for a spin.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Case for Books by Robert Darnton &#8211; The Interplay of Private and Public Interests in Libraries by John</title>
		<link>http://johnmiedema.ca/2010/03/02/the-case-for-books-by-robert-darnton-the-interplay-of-private-and-public-interests-in-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-5116</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark, Battles&#039; book is worth reading. Maybe you saw my review of it. But I looked up the notes I used to write the review of Darnton&#039;s book and he also discusses the transition from royal exclusivity with literature to public libraries.

He starts Chapter 1 looking back to the &quot;Republic of Letters&quot;, the enlightenment of the eighteenth century and its belief in ideas and knowledge. &quot;Anyone could join it by exercising the two main attributes of citizenship, writing and reading&quot; (4). He acknowledges that &quot;the Republic of Letters suffered from the same disease that ate through all societies in the eighteenth century: privilege&quot;. Nevertheless, he invokes the enlightenment as an argument for openness in libraries. &quot;For Jefferson, enlightenment took place by means of writers and readers, books and libraries -- especially libraries&quot;.

He is not precisely saying that libraries arose as a response to the exclusivity of royals, but that the spirit of public libraries is seen in the enlightenment and to today, despite the counter spirit of exclusivity that existed then and is still observed today in libraries.

I think I still had Battles&#039; history echoing in my head when I was reading this. When I get my hands back on his book, I will check if there is more on this theme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark, Battles&#8217; book is worth reading. Maybe you saw my review of it. But I looked up the notes I used to write the review of Darnton&#8217;s book and he also discusses the transition from royal exclusivity with literature to public libraries.</p>
<p>He starts Chapter 1 looking back to the &#8220;Republic of Letters&#8221;, the enlightenment of the eighteenth century and its belief in ideas and knowledge. &#8220;Anyone could join it by exercising the two main attributes of citizenship, writing and reading&#8221; (4). He acknowledges that &#8220;the Republic of Letters suffered from the same disease that ate through all societies in the eighteenth century: privilege&#8221;. Nevertheless, he invokes the enlightenment as an argument for openness in libraries. &#8220;For Jefferson, enlightenment took place by means of writers and readers, books and libraries &#8212; especially libraries&#8221;.</p>
<p>He is not precisely saying that libraries arose as a response to the exclusivity of royals, but that the spirit of public libraries is seen in the enlightenment and to today, despite the counter spirit of exclusivity that existed then and is still observed today in libraries.</p>
<p>I think I still had Battles&#8217; history echoing in my head when I was reading this. When I get my hands back on his book, I will check if there is more on this theme.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Case for Books by Robert Darnton &#8211; The Interplay of Private and Public Interests in Libraries by Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha, from Battles. OK, guess I&#039;m going to have to break down and add it to the reading list. Been aware of it for a long time but with so many other books to read.

Thanks, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha, from Battles. OK, guess I&#8217;m going to have to break down and add it to the reading list. Been aware of it for a long time but with so many other books to read.</p>
<p>Thanks, John.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Case for Books by Robert Darnton &#8211; The Interplay of Private and Public Interests in Libraries by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark, it&#039;s a good question. The statement stems at least partly from my reading of library history in the UK, e.g., Battles&#039; Unquiet History. I left that title in London ON (currently in Ottawa) so give me till the weekend to look back at it, and I will give you a good answer. 

(Thanks for the feedback on the design. Yeah, it is a bit pokey at times on load because of new functions. It&#039;s not just the Twitter call that&#039;s doing it - it usually loads pretty quickly. Still thinking on how to best address it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark, it&#8217;s a good question. The statement stems at least partly from my reading of library history in the UK, e.g., Battles&#8217; Unquiet History. I left that title in London ON (currently in Ottawa) so give me till the weekend to look back at it, and I will give you a good answer. </p>
<p>(Thanks for the feedback on the design. Yeah, it is a bit pokey at times on load because of new functions. It&#8217;s not just the Twitter call that&#8217;s doing it &#8211; it usually loads pretty quickly. Still thinking on how to best address it.)</p>
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